Help Oppo. Im at my diagnostic wits end

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01/19/2018 at 09:38 • Filed to: None

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So I just put 1/2 a gallon of coolant in the Suzuki. Theres a small puddle underneath it when parked. But I just ran it for 15 min and couldnt get it to leak.

Its got a new head gasket, new water pump, new timing belt, new radiator, and a new thermostat.

The hoses are still original and so is the cap. When I put coolant in it was overheating at idle. When I opened the cap it did not spray at me. Also the overflow was bone dry.

It appears to be leaking in the center-front of the engine bay, but that also could have been spillage from me filling it. The coolant is not airating.

I’m thinking its a pressure hose or the radiator cap. My sources say it should be a 16 lb. cap; this one is a 13 lb. Cap. But we’ve driven it 12k miles and this is the first cooling system fault its had since the head job.

Its a 1996 Suzuki X-90, G16B (1.6L 16 valve SOHC), automatic 4x4. Any ideas oppo?

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Kinja'd!!! Future next gen S2000 owner > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
01/19/2018 at 09:42

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Air trapped in the system? Wrong temp thermostat?*

*These are guesses. I have no idea.


Kinja'd!!! benjrblant > Future next gen S2000 owner
01/19/2018 at 09:45

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Those would be my first two thoughts as well.


Kinja'd!!! HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
01/19/2018 at 09:45

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If the engine is hot and the radiator isn’t then your thermostat isn’t opening


Kinja'd!!! Nibby > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
01/19/2018 at 09:46

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needs more blinker fluid

also try siphoning out the coolant directly into your gas tank


Kinja'd!!! crowmolly > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
01/19/2018 at 09:47

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You can rent a cooling system pressure tester from most of the big parts stores. I’d give that a shot.

https://www.autozone.com/loan-a-tools/pressure-tester-adapters/powerbuilt-cooling-system-pressure/449951_0_0


Kinja'd!!! Wacko > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
01/19/2018 at 09:52

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a lift kit with AT tires will fix that*

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*won’t fix it but will make it look cooler


Kinja'd!!! jimz > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
01/19/2018 at 09:58

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if you’re in a salt zone I’ve actually seen engine block core plugs rust and seep coolant through perforations.

edit: or if it has an engine block heater, the grommet could be leaking.


Kinja'd!!! AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
01/19/2018 at 10:00

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Lots of timing covers have coolant flowing through them, so maybe its gasket.


Kinja'd!!! random001 > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
01/19/2018 at 10:18

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I would check all the clamps and hoses, personally. If it’s leaking when cold, it could be a bad seal at a hose that goes away when things get hot/expand.

Either way, if original hoses, I’d replace those before going further. If that isn’t the issue, I’d look at freeze plugs like JimZ suggested.


Kinja'd!!! merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
01/19/2018 at 10:21

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Grab some coolant dye and add half a bottle to your coolant, refill and run the car up to temp. Shut it down and grab a uv light to check for leaks.

I found a seeping leak on my CTSV back in the day with dye. The leak was so small that it would dry quickly after leaking out and not leaving much evidence of the leak. The dye, however, showed right where it was leaking. Between the crimps on the radiator and the plastic endcaps. It was a noted issue after awhile with those radiators, but I didn’t know it at the time. Anyway, the leak will be more visible once the car is shut off after reaching operating temp. As it will be under pressure. That’s when you want to start looking. But the due is great to use to find those small leaks.


Kinja'd!!! merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
01/19/2018 at 10:22

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Also, if the cap is old and not holding pressure, then you can basically boil off the coolant as it heats up. Replace the cap ASAP, they’re cheap.


Kinja'd!!! Dogsatemypants > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
01/19/2018 at 10:23

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Go to your local parts store and borrow a radiator pressure tester. Its really a fancy bike pump with a fitting to attach to the filler neck. Pump it full of air and see if the needle drops. If it doesn’t hold pressure, inspect and replace hoses. Retest, if still no pressure, bad news bud, you probably need a new radiator or heater core. If it does hold pressure, put a new cap on and check the overflow inlet and hose for blockage.

Make sure heat and fan are on full when burping the radiator, and try to park on a slight incline with radiator sitting high side so the bubbles can find their way out faster.


Kinja'd!!! BigBlock440 > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
01/19/2018 at 10:25

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Probably the freeze plugs. I had to replace one on my car a few years ago, and now the two on either side of it are leaking too. I’m not sure I’m going to bother with it though, just keep topping up every so often.


Kinja'd!!! Dogsatemypants > Dogsatemypants
01/19/2018 at 10:27

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I want one, but with the giant redbull can in the back. I think redbull tastes like rancid strawberries, but I’m fairly confident I can wrap it with a slurm or buzz beer label.


Kinja'd!!! Herr Quattro - Has a 4-motion > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
01/19/2018 at 10:30

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Im gonna go with hoses ala SR-71 blackbird.

When cold, itll leak like a shiv, but once up to temperature the hoses will expand ‘plugging’ the holes.


Kinja'd!!! crowmolly > Dogsatemypants
01/19/2018 at 11:01

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Yup, or you can just jack up the front end.


Kinja'd!!! MonkeePuzzle > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
01/19/2018 at 11:09

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when you did the new water pump and such, did you use any good based sealants? they can sometimes detach or if you use too muhc can fall inside and clog up the works.

some folks below have suggested rad pressure tester (ya know, if you can think of a parts store to borrow one from *wink* )

might be impossible by design, but I know in some vehicles its possible to install the thermostat upsidedown/backwards, and therefor it wont open correctly.

my last suggestion, hose the bay down really well and let it dry, then retry your issue so you can actually find where it is leaking more accurately.


Kinja'd!!! sony1492 > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
01/19/2018 at 11:24

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Old Radiator caps often dont hold their original pressure. I believe the relationship is 3 degrees per psi of pressure to reach a boiling point, and with no psi 212 will be closeish to operating temp.

Is the fan kicking on?

Kind of a dumb one but is the coolant diluted? Coolant dosent wick away heat like water and if it’s 100% coolant it will be a bad time.

I’d bleed the system of air. Take the cap off, run the car and keep filling the radiator until it’s been up to temp(usually when the fan comes on) for a moment. When the thermostat opens you will see the radiator level drop